[Nagiosplug-devel] New Threshold Syntax

Páll Guðjón Sigurðsson palli at ok.is
Mon Sep 30 19:11:15 CEST 2013


Yeah i have some slides to get us started.

http://pall.sigurdsson.is/filez/new-threshold-syntax.svg

Cheers,
Palli


----- Original Message -----
From: "William Leibzon" <william at leibzon.org>
To: "Nagios Plugin Development Mailing List" <nagiosplug-devel at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Nagiosplug-devel] New Threshold Syntax



I'll arrive Monday night and will only be on the conference for 1.5 days. 


I did update my wiki spec draft based on all comments on the mail list (last change was to make supporting any keyword optional i.e. plugin writers can pick and choose what to support which is what it always has been in nagios and current spec). What I have in github wikii is current base for proposal and presentation: 
https://github.com/willixix/nagios-plugins/wiki/New-Threshold-Syntax 


We have a BoF scheduled for 30 minutes during Tuesday lunch time: 
Lunch BoF Session (12:30-1:00): Nagios Plugin Thresholds - William Leibzon 


I haven't even started on slides for it (have another full session to prepare for), would expect to need 4-8 slides for first 10-15 minutes, then discussion. If people want to help create some slides and/or wants to co-present let me know quickly. 



On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Páll Guðjón Sigurðsson < palli at ok.is > wrote: 


I have arrived in St. Paul and i am looking forward to the conference. 

If anyone is interested in meeting up to discuss plugin guidelines, thresholds, pynag or just to meet up over a pint. Hesitate to contact me. 

In the meantime if we get a dedicated slot somewhere around the presentations i'll make sure to show up. 

Cheers, 
Pall 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Leibzon" < william at leibzon.org > 

To: "Nagios Plugin Development Mailing List" < nagiosplug-devel at lists.sourceforge.net > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:23:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [Nagiosplug-devel] New Threshold Syntax 





I have requested time at upcoming Nagios conference for 30 minute BoF session on this topic and to get feedback on any general features people may like to see in all the plugins. They have't got back to me yet (only sent email on Friday) but this is not a formal session and so I'd not expect an issue with holding it after normal sessions are over. 


My own plugins library and several plugins will support the syntax at https://github.com/willixix/nagios-plugins/wiki/New-Threshold-Syntax by conference time (just committed most of the necessary code yesterday). 


I hope that as independent library authors move in to this syntax, the official plugins can too although I totally understand about the manpower in the open-source effort. Still I'd like to see it a a future long-term goal to support this. 


William 



On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Holger Weiß < holger at cis.fu-berlin.de > wrote: 


* Páll Guðjón Sigurðsson < palli at ok.is > [2013-07-15 20:57]: 

> We implemented same RFC in pynag (python modules for nagios related 
> stuff). We also hit some walls and wanted to make modifications. 
> Unfortunately, it's been a long time since it was written and author of 
> the proposal is not answering my emails on the topic. 
> 
> I am not sure if there is a lot of motivation among the nagios-plugins 
> folks to implement this RFC, so i wonder if third party libraries like 
> you and should coordinate on it anyway ? 

We (the Plugins Development Team) discussed this internally, but we 
haven't really reached a consensus on how to proceed. Some concerns 
have been raised regarding the added complexity and the amount of 
refactoring necessary to check only for specified thresholds. 

Either way, I guess we must acknowledge that we currently lack the 
manpower to implement a new threshold syntax, which means we'll probably 
stick to the current syntax for the time being. So I'd say yes: Please 
move ahead independently of us. Personally I quite like the new syntax, 
and if you settled on the details and it works well for you, we can 
still decide on whether and how to adopt it :-) 

Thanks a lot for your work on this! 

Holger 

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